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    Debconf 2002 Canada in trouble...
    Submitted by Netsnipe on Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 16:25
    Joe Drew has written to
    the Debian-devel mailing list about the organisation for the July 2002
    gathering of international Debian developers currently being in a dire
    situation
    . The conference is facing two problems:


    1. The current venue, Toronto will be hosting World Youth Day,
      millions of tourists and the Pope and subsequently, accommodation
      arrangements will be limited.
    2. Most venues are quoting corporate rates despite Debian's
      non-profit nature and Internet connectivity is still only a
      possibility.


    Drew warns that "It's become slowly apparent that Debconf 2002
    won't be able to be held in Toronto, unless someone with connections
    rapidly comes up with something which is more reasonable.
    ". He
    also suggests that the whole conference may moved to Waterloo, Ontario
    or even postponed.



    So if you happen to know someone in the Canadian LUG,
    universities or convention/conference scene who can help out in whatever way possible; now would be a good time
    to step up and offer your assistance to the Debian community.


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    Subject: Re: Debconf 2002 Canada in trouble...
    Author:Anonymous
    Date:Saturday, 2001/12/08 - 04:42
    I sent an e-mail out to debian-devel last week about this.
    For the record, the York University Computer Club is working towards having Debconf at York University, which is in Toronto.
    Our goals are:
  • Free conference rooms/classrooms for the conference.
  • Cheap lodging for delegates (i.e. utilizing residences).
  • Plenty of internet access, boxes for coding/XTerminals, etc...
  • Access to any other needed resources that we may have availible.

    I've spoken with Joe and a bunch of people at the university and thus far things are looking good. We should know for certain within a week or two if it's feasible. From my converstaion with Joe, it is my understanding that the major problem is that Debian was being treated as a company instead of the volunteer organization it is. On the other hand, while I'm not a Debian user myself (Redhat and OpenBSD mostly), I and the other execs of YUCC appreciate the contribution it makes to the Linux community. We'd love to help out in any way possible.
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    Subject: Re: Debconf 2002 Canada in trouble...
    Author:Anonymous
    Date:Saturday, 2001/12/08 - 04:42
    I sent an e-mail out to debian-devel last week about this.
    For the record, the York University Computer Club is working towards having Debconf at York University, which is in Toronto.
    Our goals are:
  • Free conference rooms/classrooms for the conference.
  • Cheap lodging for delegates (i.e. utilizing residences).
  • Plenty of internet access, boxes for coding/XTerminals, etc...
  • Access to any other needed resources that we may have availible.

    I've spoken with Joe and a bunch of people at the university and thus far things are looking good. We should know for certain within a week or two if it's feasible. From my converstaion with Joe, it is my understanding that the major problem is that Debian was being treated as a company instead of the volunteer organization it is. On the other hand, while I'm not a Debian user myself (Redhat and OpenBSD mostly), I and the other execs of YUCC appreciate the contribution it makes to the Linux community. We'd love to help out in any way possible.
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    Subject: move it!
    Author:pecka
    Date:Wednesday, 2001/12/05 - 21:19
    hey,
    i would like to see it move to europe - cuz i'm poor and canadians are scary (see Terence anf Philip) and finally i stick with those 666 guys.
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    Subject: Re: move it!
    Author:Kamion
    Date:Monday, 2001/12/10 - 13:37
    DebConf has been in Europe (Bordeaux in France) for the last two years, so it's probably a good idea to have it somewhere else for a change. It can always come back to Europe in the future.
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    Subject: Re: move it!
    Author:Anonymous
    Date:Thursday, 2001/12/06 - 16:18
    We are soooooo NOT scary... well maybe after a trip to the pub... but that's another story. This conference sounds like a really good idea, and I would be happy to make a few calls around the area on your behalf (save you some LD$).. so if you guys are interested in my offer, you can get in touch with me at jayboi@loki.starside.ca (or snootched@hotmail.com .. yes i know i know.. blasphemy)
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    Subject: Waterloo...
    Author:TPSREPORT
    Date:Wednesday, 2001/12/05 - 05:43

    Hate to sound biased, but, well, yeah, I am. :) Living in Waterloo, I must say that I would be very interested in having it come here! I would even be willing to volunteer to help out.

    I don't know what a good venue would be for the event -- I don't know how big it is, but I know that there are definitely folks at the University of Waterloo who are into Linux and Debian.

    Tim
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    Subject: Re: Waterloo...
    Author:Anonymous
    Date:Monday, 2001/12/10 - 18:26
    Yes, Waterloo would be awesome. Glad I live there. ;)
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    Subject: Re: Waterloo...
    Author:Anonymous
    Date:Wednesday, 2001/12/05 - 18:21
    Waterloo is perfect. There are lots of tech companies, accomodations would be reasonable, it is only an hour from either Hamilton (West Jet) or Toronto (all other airlines) and there is a strong Linux presence. Best of all, it likely wouldn't be hosting any other conferences.

    In addition, Kitchener, Cambridge and Guelph (each about 10 mins. away) could all be used for accomodations if Waterloo is full up, giving many more hotels to choose from. All the cities have some sort of accomodations for larger conferences and ready internet access should be easy to obtain.

    Besides, my ex-wife lives there and I could combine a trip to the conference with a visit with my son ;)
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    Subject: Re: Debconf 2002 Canada in trouble...
    Author:Anonymous
    Date:Wednesday, 2001/12/05 - 00:04
    What about western Canada? Ever think about Edmonton, Calgary or Vancouver? All of those major Canadian cities have actually had economic growth this year!!

    Stef
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    Subject: Re: Debconf 2002 Canada in trouble...
    Author:Anonymous
    Date:Wednesday, 2001/12/05 - 19:24
    Well, I don't know the Vancouver area at all. But I do know that the University of Alberta (in Edmonton) uses OpenBSD along with some form of Linux for their network. They teach a lot of Linux in their classes and have several LUG's and UNIX User Groups.

    They're also many Linux orientated companies around Edmonton as well. They range from using Linux in embeded industrial control's to Linux consulting services.

    You can visit www.edmontonlinux.org for more information on Linux users, developpers, and companies around Edmonton. (that web site does not list them all :D )

    Stef
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    Subject: Re: Debconf 2002 Canada in trouble...
    Author:Anonymous
    Date:Wednesday, 2001/12/05 - 18:06
    Vancouver would be really convenient, and it's a beautiful place, and I hear that there are some great chinese restaurants there, and ...
    I wonder if it has any suitable facilities?Any Vancouverites reading who could comment?
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    Subject: Re: Debconf 2002 Canada in trouble...
    Author:Anonymous
    Date:Wednesday, 2001/12/05 - 22:05
    I live in Vancouver, I don't know how many people we are talking about attending but UBC (Univeristy of British Columbia) would be an option and possibly SFU (Simon Fraser Univeristy also in Vancouver). I go to UBC so I know that that in the summer you can house people for events like this.

    There is a vancouver Linux group at www.vanlug.bc.ca that would be worth contacting if people wanted it in Vancouver.

    You might want to contact Libranet too since they are a Debian based distro that is based in Vancouver. (Stormix, another Debian-based Linux distribution was also in Vancouver BC while it was alive).
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    Subject: Re: Debconf 2002 Canada in trouble...
    Author:Anonymous
    Date:Wednesday, 2001/12/05 - 08:04
    Yeah... Edmonton or Calgary would definately rock.
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    Subject: Re: Debconf 2002 Canada in trouble...
    Author:Anonymous
    Date:Wednesday, 2001/12/05 - 01:53
    Yes Edmonton would be good ;)
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    Subject: Re: Debconf 2002 Canada in trouble...
    Author:Anonymous
    Date:Tuesday, 2001/12/04 - 22:30
    What about Montréal or Québec ?
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    Subject: Ottawa
    Author:Anonymous
    Date:Wednesday, 2001/12/05 - 02:03
    The University of Ottawa has new residence that they can rent as hotel(with good price i believe) and will have their new computer science(SITE) building open for that time too.
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    Subject: Re: Ottawa
    Author:Anonymous
    Date:Wednesday, 2001/12/05 - 17:42
    And they can contact the guys who organized the Linux Symposium of ottawa. It was well organized (perhaps a bit expensive)

    http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2001/
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    Subject: Re: Ottawa
    Author:Anonymous
    Date:Wednesday, 2001/12/05 - 05:00
    University McGill can rent their residence as an hotel. If you want a new Computer Science building, the Université de Montréal is your place!
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    Subject: Someone with connections....
    Author:victor
    Date:Tuesday, 2001/12/04 - 20:28
    "Common Karol, be reasonable, you know Toronto in July is a scorcher... can't you choose any other time?"

    (sorry to make fun of this. I couldn't fly to Toronto anyway, so you might as well try any other place...)
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    Subject: Re: Debconf 2002 Canada in trouble...
    Author:Anonymous
    Date:Tuesday, 2001/12/04 - 20:26
    How about New York City?

    I mean, it's in the US, so maybe that is a problem, but I'm sure that places in NYC will be itching to get some people in there.
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    Subject: World Youth Day...
    Author:threshold
    Date:Tuesday, 2001/12/04 - 18:24
    "Yea mom I really want to go to World Youth Day this year, really bad!"

    "Funny you never wanted to go before..."
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    Subject: World Youth Day...
    Author:threshold
    Date:Tuesday, 2001/12/04 - 18:24
    "Yea mom I really want to go to World Youth Day this year, really bad!"

    "Funny you never wanted to go before..."
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